Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity - concealed carry in NJ?

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Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity - concealed carry in NJ?

Postby k-villa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:07 pm

Finally a little most likely relief for those traveling through the dare I say it, the "shall issue - :lol: " state of New Jersey with a concealed carry license. At least fellow traveling citizens will be able to carry in my home state. I was hoping for the introduction of the bill that recognized any ccw permit, like a Jersey resident with a non-resident permit. At least no more innocent are going to mandatory serving jail time.

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https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170303/cornyn-introduces-the-constitutional-concealed-carry-reciprocity-act-of-2017-in-the-senate

Cornyn Introduces the “Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017” in the Senate

Friday, March 3, 2017 Cornyn Introduces the “Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017” in the Senate
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U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) on Wednesday introduced his version of interstate carry legislation, titled the “Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017.” Cornyn’s bill follows an earlier release in the House by Rep. Richard Hudson (R-NC) of the “Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017.”

Both bills seek to address the problem of law-abiding concealed carry permit holders having to negotiate a confusing maze of laws, reciprocity agreements, and recognition statutes when they travel out of state.

Currently, every state has a legal mechanism for the concealed carry of handguns for self-defense. And while reciprocity or recognition of non-resident permits is the norm between states, a handful of states that receive travelers from all over the country don’t recognize permits from other states. This leads to otherwise law-abiding people getting crossways with the law, having their valuable firearms seized, and even facing felony prosecution and mandatory prison time.

Like Shaneen Allen, a single mother of two who obtained her Pennsylvania concealed carry permit after being robbed twice within a year.

Like Raymond Hughes, a corrections officer from Pennsylvania who was traveling in New Jersey when a drunk driver collided with his vehicle and sent him to the hospital.

Like Meredith Graves, a nurse and medical student who voluntarily disclosed to security personnel at the 9/11 Memorial in New York City that she was carrying a concealed handgun on a Tennessee permit.

Like Jamie Kiklis, a decorated combat veteran and New Hampshire permittee who pulled over in Massachusetts to text his girlfriend that he was running late for their date.

And the list grows with each passing year.

Their only “crimes” were failing to realize that their permits would not protect them in certain states. Yet all of them were initially subject to felony prosecution and dragged through the courts at great financial and emotional expense. Some of them even ended up with criminal records that will follow them for the rest of their lives.

As with Hudson’s bill, Cornyn’s legislation would ensure that individuals with a valid concealed carry permit or who are otherwise legally eligible to carry in their states of residence could travel interstate while carrying a concealed handgun for self-defense or other lawful purposes. Rules of behavior for carrying firearms in each state would continue to apply.

This common-sense legislation is opposed by gun control advocates who wrongly insist that it will allow “dangerous” people to carry guns interstate and will undermine the laws of states that severely restrict concealed carry.

Needless to say, no state has an interest in licensing dangerous people to carry firearms, and all have procedures to screen out ineligible applicants. The evidence shows, moreover, that concealed carry permittees are some of the most law-abiding citizens in the United States. And dangerous criminals have been unlawfully carrying guns wherever they go throughout the nation’s history. All this legislation would do is put law-abiding people on equal footing with armed criminals while traveling from state to state.

It’s easy to see what the real source of opposition is. The same states that severely restrict carry by their own residents also refuse to recognize non-resident permits. These include California, Connecticut, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Rhode Island.

It’s not that the permitting standards of these states are any more effective in screening out dangerous applicants. It’s that concealed carry permits in those states are treated as the exclusive domain of the wealthy and the connected. The idea that “common” people would have the same rights simply offends the ruling elite’s sense of entitlement.

A robust interstate carry regime would also show the residents of those states what the rest of the country has known for decades, which is that law-abiding people carrying concealed handguns do not cause the mayhem that gun control advocates pretend follow firearms wherever they go. In fact, life goes on as usual, just with more freedom and protection for the lawfully armed and more reason for the bad guys to think twice.

The NRA commends Sen. Cornyn for his leadership in this crucial effort and looks forward to the day when the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies to all Americans in every state of the nation.

Please contact your U.S. Senators and U.S. Representative and urge them to cosponsor and support passage of S.446 -- the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017-- in the Senate, and H.R.38 -- the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017-- in the House. You can contact your U.S. Senators and U.S. Representative by phone at (202) 224-3121, or click here to Take Action.
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Re: Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity - concealed carry in NJ?

Postby k-villa » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:38 pm

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017030 ... rry-reform


Yesterday, Governor Chris Christie announced that his administration has formally adopted the police rules introduced in 2016 which more clearly define the state's "justifiable need" standard for issuance of concealed carry permits. For years, the state's unreasonable standard has been used to reject the overwhelming majority of applications for concealed carry permits. While citizens in 43 states are able to exercise a basic, fundamental right under permissive carry laws, New Jersey issues virtually no permits.

The Garden State remains an extreme outlier when it comes to its harsh gun laws. These laws have done nothing to improve public safety and only serve to harass law-abiding gun owners. Evidence of their failure is clearly visible in some of the country's most violent neighborhoods in cities like Camden, Patterson, and Newark, among others. Clearly, gun control has not worked. However, anti-gun politicians in Trenton remain undeterred. After the Governor's initial action last year, they quickly scrambled to undermine the executive action by invoking a rare constitutional provision. However, the Legislature ultimately failed to take the necessary steps to invalidate the Governor's actions.

Governor Christie should be commended for his bold action. While politicians at the Statehouse enjoy armed security, citizens are left helpless in providing for their own safety, even if they’re faced with rather serious threats. Unfortunately, we've seen too many tragic cases where honest citizens have fallen victim to the state's indefensible gun laws. The implementation of today's rule revision is an important incremental step to restoring a core constitutional right to self-defense in New Jersey.

Please contact Governor Chris Christie at (609) 292-6000 and thank him for supporting the Constitutional right to self-defense of New Jersey citizens.
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Re: Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity - concealed carry in NJ?

Postby k-villa » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:13 am

Concerning NJ, what's "justifiable need" and so it will still be as hard as snail snot to get a CCW permit.

The way I look at is even if a minor change, it's better and it's a step in right direction. Gov. Christie was on nj.com last year a few times stating in favor of CCW NJ even with no "immediate" justifiable cause. The above email was sent out by the NRA ILA so a little different and now backed. 2am NJ laws and we hour voting is soon to stop AND COMMITTEES are being formed, others looked at, so maybe it will get voted on by the right committee. Maybe the public will get to hear it, be on record and count for something.

$20 back ground fee, then police dept then wastes more of their time, only to get a Federal NICs check upon handgun purchase anyways. 6mo-1year wait periods on FID purchase care and the joke, pistol permits, are another issue to be addressed by the new Chris Christie task force . By law, it to be issued within 30 days, some people wait a year or more depending on township.

We'll see what gets done. So far a lot is looking positive the CCW arena - can't wait to get our Garands back to the STATES! a little hard to conceal tho....
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